Faith & etc

It’s been some time since I last shared something. While this is Ramazan, it is only relevant to speak of faiths. Just the last week I hosted two French cyclists (a couple actually) on world tour from Hospitality Club. While I’m not that hospitable and member of Hospitality Club, my mate is. He invited them over and they stayed for many days while in Lahore. It was rather interesting, which I wasn’t expecting earlier, to discuss things with people with totally different perspective. We had a long, thorough and exhausting session about faiths. The unbelievable part for me was that the girl said, ‘she’s Christian because she’s born to Christian parents but doesn’t believe in God.’ While for me, you’re either Christian or you’re not. You just can not stay in tune with different and contradictory perspectives. I wish I had the better idea but it just feels like mending ideas to take liberties.

And then there’s this guy Imran, cousin of friend whom I met only few weeks ago. He’s your ordinary chartered accountant nerd, clean-cut and a symbol of your modern-day forward-thinking Muslim (too many adjectives?) and yet his religious practices put pretentiously-religous-people like me to shame. The best part is he’s not forced into such practice by elders or colleagues, as he lives alone and serves in a usual demanding accountancy firm which requires him to stay late even in Ramazan.

Few and few people seem to take notice of Ramazan with every passing year. Fewer even, who fast. Perhaps it’s just my circle of people here in Lahore of whom 90% don’t bother to fast, putting forward ‘too-demanding for their daily routine’ sign. I see and wonder how the shape of things is changing drastically over just a short span of time. The life in big cities puts you close to atheism anyway without even realising it. We perhaps are seeing a change in faiths.

9 Comments so far

  1. Usman Choudry (unregistered) on October 12th, 2006 @ 8:24 pm

    Aslam – 0 – Alekum,
    I hope you knew what you were talking about when you posted this BLOG. Ill be honest with you, you seem like you tried really hard to get your point across but lost the meaning using big words.
    ” ‘she’s Christian because she’s born to Christian parents but doesn’t believe in God.’ While for me, you’re either Christian or you’re not. You just can not stay in tune with different and contradictory perspectives. I wish I had the better idea but it just feels like mending ideas to take liberties. ”
    I didnt understand that paragraph. As far as your concern is regarding people fasting less and less these days. You have to understand the fact how many people pray 5 times a day these days as well. How many people are involved in sins that are forbidden, for instance, Pre-marital SEX is huge in Lahore, matter of fact in Pakistan. Prostitution is more readily available then food at some ones table. how do you expect people to perform in advance level when they are not even performing at basic level. It all boils down who we follow. You said the girl mentioned she is Christian but she doesnt believe in GOD. Same thing is in Pakistan. We believe in one ALLAH but guess what, majority of us do not walk the path we are suppose to! By the way your looks has nothing to do with how religious you are. You can consider me an every day modern Geek to, but i do have fear of ALLAH in my heart and i try to stay on righteous path. May ALLAH bless you and me and allt he MUSLIM ummah! AMEEN…


  2. iceCube (unregistered) on October 13th, 2006 @ 1:28 am

    Not getting into any emotionally charged debate, I find it funny when people say there’re greater number of mods or that the movli population is growing (with tableeg people in every mosque keeping things rolloing their way and weekly/anual ijtimah attracting huge crowds, you can’t just overlook them). I think they both are on the rise! which sort of cancels the effect of each other, so the net result is probably the same as before.

    I think it just depends on the company you’re keeping… what I mean is, you form your opinion of one party’s speedier growth by looking at the people around you.

    Cheers!

    PS. Its good to have you back Entrepreneur Balloon Purple 2 The Core. It was one of your blog that made me regular at Lahore metblog.


  3. Entrepreneur Balloon ~ 2 (unregistered) on October 13th, 2006 @ 3:25 am

    @Usman

    I was rather refering to ideologies in the first paragraph than anything else. My point was, you either think there is a God (having a faith e.g. being Christian) or you think there isn’t (no faith/athiesm). I feel I could not deliver what I wanted to say.

    And then, I was speaking of practices, wholly/partially influenced by modern-day lifestyle without realising it.

    @iceCube

    “they both are on the rise”
    So we feel like having two poles now? Two groups of extremists?

    Yeah, it heavily depends on the company you keep. Thanks for remembering me dude! :)


  4. iceCube (unregistered) on October 13th, 2006 @ 11:05 am

    >>…two poles now? Two groups of extremists?
    Hmmm… thats actually interesting. I didn’t think it along that line. But two groups of extremists and both on the rise doesn’t sound like a good thing to me. I wish there were more sensible people around as well… to keep things cool.

    And by looking at the company “I” keep… there aren’t many. Some. But not enough.

    @Entrepreneur Balloon ~ 2
    You’re welcome mate. Keep writing and sharing.


  5. decipher (unregistered) on October 13th, 2006 @ 11:59 pm

    I feel you. It seems that many of us are astray from the right path and what you say is very relevant… majority of people have the impression that they are Muslims only because they were born to a Muslim family. They identify themselves not with the religion itself but with their familial backgrounds and beliefs, themselves being completely unperceptive of the Islamic values and practices or perhaps even atheist. … Even oxford dictionary defines such Muslims as being cultural Muslims
    As for living in a metropolis city and being constrained within a busy schedule, all it takes is a few minutes to remember Allah and I must say, Islam can be a very harmonious religion with your life’s routine and it’s our job to make it work for us.


  6. Sabyn (unregistered) on October 14th, 2006 @ 5:15 am

    Nature decides it, not us that who will be born as who. Anyhow, we should always be thankful to God that we are born as Muslims, regardless we practice more or less. Koi eiman kai kam darjai par hai aur koi onchay darjai par. But once you become wise enough to distinguish between right and wrong, i think it becomes a serious business then. you have to choose the right pattern otherwise life will become shallow and have no meaning to you other than earning money, chilling, eating and sleeping etc, like most of ppl do.
    “seeing is believing” , so they simply dont believe on existance of a God maybe because they cannot see him or even feel his presence, so they kind of mix up things :) the result of which was that sentence by that lady. Belief is watered by observation and strong beliefs ultimately strengthen our faith……. but only a few are bothered about such things, so it really does not matter to some ppl that they are having a faith, or no faith, half faith or mix faith.

    I feel human nature needs some pattern to follow, thats why we are even having modern relegions surfacing to meet modern day’s requirements :) like scientology , if i m not wrong… andaz apna apna!

    When we are immature we follow our elders, when we are mature, we start building our own world and we come out of the world that is built by our dad or mom, because it belonged to them only. Like just imagine, how difficult it would be for Kuffar e Makka to accept a new relegion, they used to say that how can we forget the relegion of our forefathers!!some of them “observed” the authenticity of islam and some did not.

    well, looks does matter, but not that much. Its really difficult to say who is pious and who is not just by looks. Only God knows. and Yes, God wants us to work neatly, cleanly dressed , actively, sincerely at our work places, so it should be like that way…in any case :)

    I guess its illitaracy mostly and then “asayesh (comfort)” that is resulting in ppl less bothered about fasting. Maybe you will find most of rozadars from middle class, plus minus.


  7. Yahya (unregistered) on October 14th, 2006 @ 6:21 am

    “Pre-marital SEX is huge in Lahore, matter of fact in Pakistan”

    Ok, I am a little worried about this. Is it really true or just an emotional outburst. What sorts of demographics are involved? Young, teenagers, older? Who is responsible for it? Media? What is anyone (such as parents) doing about it?

    Where would this lead to?


  8. Bhooka Nanga (unregistered) on October 14th, 2006 @ 4:19 pm

    this would lead to Mushy’s enlightened moderation :P what else you think it is? everyone complains about Gen Zia being imposed on us for 11 years and but hey just look here, it’s been 7 years since bloody Mushy Ka Manhoos Saya is on us and we haven’t even noticed :)


  9. Yahya (unregistered) on October 14th, 2006 @ 5:38 pm

    “this would lead to Mushy’s enlightened moderation”

    How? Has he asked everyone to do this? Please clarify as I can’t see the connection. As far as I can see people do this on their own. Musharraf can’t come in every home and see what everyone is doing.



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