‘Hell’ to the ‘Devil’… (edited)

Important Note:

Actually this post “Hell to the Devil…“, which was actually created on 8th July, 2007 at 07:35:20 AM, has been proved inauthentic because there was no credible source to prove this news to be true. I read this news in “Daily Waqt” and my friend confirmed that he saw it in “Daily Jinnah” and “Babar(a commentor below) also confirmed that it was in “Daily Express“…
So, I just appologize for what ever happened and want you to not believe on what ever is written below (I mean in previous post).
I am not taking this post offline because I feel bad when I find my own mistakes but I’m not afraid of accepting them.
I’m really thankful to the commentors that they participated and provided the right information.
Please read “Did you notice that???” a post by Adnan, proving this news a hoax about a year ago.
Further comments, queries and concerns are welcomed.
Thanks for your cooperation.

No one forgot the ‘devil‘ from Denmark who created some objectionable ‘caricatures‘ of our beloved prophet Hazarat Muhammad (Sall’ Allah Ho Alleihe Wasallam).
And now there is one more reason to never forget him…

(see the pic below)

http://lahore.metblogs.com/archives/images/2007/07/p7-11-thumb.gif

The source of this news is the newly launched newspaper Daily Waqt.

The link to this news is; http://www.dailywaqt.com/040707/Images/p7-11.gif

23 Comments so far

  1. Sa'ad (unregistered) on July 8th, 2007 @ 10:11 am

    Seems like fake news to me.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flemming_Rose


  2. Babar (unregistered) on July 8th, 2007 @ 10:17 am

    Man try to live in real world, otherwise your happiness will always be shattered and your dreams will always remain dream. Just as the caricratures can not affect our beloved prophet’s honour , this one guys death does not help or prove any thing. And it looks like a fake news anyways.


  3. Opee (unregistered) on July 8th, 2007 @ 10:36 am

    Its a hoax – almost a year old – at least! Please remove this item from LMB. Thank you!!


  4. JayJay (unregistered) on July 8th, 2007 @ 4:25 pm

    1. What has this concocted story has to do with the great city of Lahore?
    2. Why did not the “esteemed” newspaper, Waqt, provide the name of “ghair mulki jareeda” they referred to? The newspaper even failed to provide the name of the person who died in a fire along with the family. Not even the date and location of the so-called incident is mentioned.
    3. Don’t people who are not involved in “blasphemy” die, sometimes even due to fire?

    It is all insulting for people with an iota of common sense- a zealously misleading newspaper provided an uncorroborated story, which is not picked up by any other news organization in the world It is even more insulting that a blogger decides to make such a flimsy gossips as the topic of a metro (NOT PERSONAL) blog.


  5. >man!< (unregistered) on July 9th, 2007 @ 4:31 am

    hey guys..
    woww…
    so many oppositions..
    that’s cool..
    I really appreciate your concerns..

    but..
    I do have something to say..

    1st of all..

    Question# 1:
    What this post has to do with Lahore and why is it here at LMB?

    Ans:
    It has nothing to do with Lahore but, it has something to do with me and I, being a Muslim, wanted every body to know about it which I could not do on my personal blog..
    So, I don’t find any fault in posting this news here at LMB.

    Question# 2:
    Why did the newspaper (Daily Waqt) not provided proper information i.e, name of the person, date, place and the international newspaper?

    Ans:
    I really don’t know about them but I mentioned/provided the link from where I got this news.
    So, better ask them why they have not provided the full information…

    Question# 3:
    The relation of his death and the issue..?

    Ans:
    Dear ‘BABAR’ and ‘JAYJAY’…
    I did’t provided even a hint of it that I am happy at his death.
    Yes offcourse, none can reduce the respect of our Prophet from our hearts by doing such nonsense and also..
    I know that others also die who are not involved in blasphemy but the reason of posting was solely for the sake of emotions of Muslims related to this incident.

    Question# 4:
    Is it a true story..?

    Ans:
    That really is a matter of thinking.
    ‘I am sorry’… I’s so involved in this news that I didn’t bother to research on it.
    I must say that if the report is a hoax, it will be an experience for me..
    I assure you that after confirming the credibility of the news, I’ll edit the post and will publish it again..

    Question# 5:
    no other news paper published the story..?

    Ans:
    There is (atleast) one more newspaper which published this news…
    I was unable to find the archive option of that urdu daily but if I find the printed version in the library, I’ll post it here in the post or in the comments..

    thanx for ur valuable suggestions..


  6. >man!< (unregistered) on July 9th, 2007 @ 4:39 am

    plz do it what I write below..

    go to http://www.dailywaqt.com

    there is ‘Archive’ option on the banner of the the website at the upper right side..

    select the date ” Jul 4, 2007 “.

    then select the category “National” page from the drop down menu right beside the date drop down menu..

    when opened..
    scroll down the page and you’ll find the single columned news in the lower right part of the page..

    just for proof..


  7. Babar (unregistered) on July 9th, 2007 @ 4:52 pm

    Dear Man,
    I just checked your website and found out your age. You do have a lot to learn in life yet. I forgive you on the account of you being just 21 :)). Cheer now.
    p.s. Seems like you havent been cheking these cheethra newspapers for long.


  8. babar (unregistered) on July 9th, 2007 @ 4:56 pm

    And for your info. it was also in daily express.


  9. JayJay (unregistered) on July 9th, 2007 @ 5:30 pm

    Man – Thanks for explaination. Please do not trust Urdu press as they are susceptible to sensationalism, and please note a personal blog is the best place for personal feelings.


  10. Opee (unregistered) on July 9th, 2007 @ 9:25 pm

    Adnan Siddiqi – is our regular reader/commentor of LMB for a long time. He mentioned back in June ’06 about the same news referring it as a hoax. Please see: http://kadnan.blogspot.com/2006/06/did-you-notice-that.html

    Mani, this news is exciting of course. The day I read it for the first time, almost one and a half year ago, it gave me a breath of relief too. But one has to stay calm and verify before posting something directly to the public!

    Many Muslims would certainly rejoice about such news, and so the author of the hoax probably thought that with this message he could bring happiness to many brothers/sisters in these dark times. However, he merely ends up exposing the enormous gullibility of the many Muslims who have taken the message to be true and have spread it around the community and posted it on plenty of blogs.

    In any case, the point that is exposing the story as a hoax without any question is the fact that these twelve cartoons were the result of a cartoon contest and have been drawn not by one person but by many different cartoonists. Despite the fact that the Jamaat-e-Islami that put out a bounty for the murder of the cartoonist made the same mistake, the call for murder was real. However, this misunderstanding exposes the above story as a hoax driven by a combination of wishful thinking and total ignorance.

    P.S.: We are glad to see that there are still some Muslims out there who have brains enough to NOT uncritically accept and forward such messages as they are (somehow) directly or indirectly related to our prophet!


  11. Opee (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 3:53 am

    Much appreciated Mani. U’re the man!!! :)


  12. >man!< (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 4:14 am

    Thanks buddy for both..
    one for appreciating..
    and
    2nd for finding out the secret in my ID (man!)..
    ;)

    but there is one more..
    :)


  13. Opee (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 4:20 am

    Yea, I know its “Man!”, I wonder why people always refer you with ‘MAN’. Its confusing for them may be! Any how, Cheers mate!


  14. >man!< (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 4:28 am

    yeah may be..
    but the placement of “!” instead of “i” has a deep meaning..
    just a bit deep..
    ;)

    compare “mani” with “man!”..

    its not necessary..
    only if u want..
    :)


  15. Mohammad (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 5:07 am

    That was extreme dajjal drama took several innocent kids life that Islamabad dajjal drama directed by and prepared by anti Islamic forces to tell or make thinking for all Islamic peoples don’t follow this religion Islam is a extremist religion against humanity both main characters will happy and safe under by government of Pakistan.


  16. ralam@nexlinx.net.pk (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 2:38 pm

    Why did the poster think this newsworthy – even from a religious perspective. As I write this, the army of a Islamic Republic is involved in a military operation against a mosque and seminary.

    The cartoons were nothing. The fight in Islamabad (who over you think is to blame or who ever you think is in the right) is the real blasphemy.

    Oh, I did an internet search for this story. It’s actually out of Germany. A local priest – ancient and senile by all accounts – who had in previous years rallied against Muslims immigrating to Pakistan and who had been vocal in defending the right to publish the Danish cartoon caricatures, was killed in a fire last year. I’ll have to spend some time on google getting you the source, but I’m fairly sure its there if you search with the right parameters.


  17. >man!< (unregistered) on July 11th, 2007 @ 3:09 am

    @ RALAM:

    I just reported what I saw in the newspaper..
    It would be nice if you provide links to the sources you mentioned in the comment above..

    and about the Lal Masjid..
    look man…

    I wrote an article on my concern over Lal Masjid’s issue here at LMB..

    link to the post:
    http://lahore.metblogs.com/archives/2007/07/my_concern_over.phtml

    but you know what..
    not even a single person bothered to answer my question..
    and you know why..
    coz… (what I think) people got frustrated and werew feeling bored talking about the issue..
    coz aal the time they were watching it on the TV stations, in the newspapers, in their daily life discussions at their homes or outside, in the office and among their friends..
    I mean all over in Pakistan was the issue of Lal Masjid..

    and even in Metroblogging i.e. IMB, LMB and KMB were reporting it continuously..

    you say that cartoons were nothing, the issue is Lal Masjid but see..
    the people are so fed up that they now don’t want to talk about it..

    so,…
    now please have some research and provide the readers with the liks so that they can better understand the issue..

    plz don’t mind any thing..
    Thanks.


  18. ralam (unregistered) on July 11th, 2007 @ 5:10 pm

    Dude,

    You must analyze the Masjid issue in the right perspective. You rightfully feel a decline in Pakistani society. So does everyone else. But we all have the right to feel it differently. Some do by watching television. Some do by writing on blogs. But remember this: If people don’t agree with you, it’s not their fault. Maybe you’re not getting the message across correctly.

    Anyway, sorry for lecturing you. I’m a bit depressed. The fact that no organization should attempt to set up a parallel system of justice or be allowed to carry arms in the manner the seminary students did is no justification for the fact that soldiers of an Islamic Republic killed its citizens in a mosque.

    The link you asked for (it has nothing to do with the sensationalized news you posted – so check you facts before doing so in the future):

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article623634.ece


  19. JayJay (unregistered) on July 11th, 2007 @ 5:24 pm

    RALAM SAID; “The fact that no organization should attempt to set up a parallel system of justice or be allowed to carry arms in the manner the seminary students did is no justification for the fact that soldiers of an Islamic Republic killed its citizens in a mosque.”

    Please read below incidents. It will help your depression.

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Hajjaj_bin_Yousef

    “On the campaign against Musab, al-Hajjaj seems to have led the rearguard and to have distinguished himself by some feats of valour. After the victory over Mus’ab at Maskin on the Dudjayl in 72/691, on the caliph’s orders he set out from Kufa in the same month at the head of about 2000 Syrians against Abd Allah b. al-Zubayr, the anti-caliph of Mecca. He advanced unopposed as far as his native Taif, which he took without any fighting and used as a base. The caliph had charged him first to negotiate with Ibn al-Zubayr and to assure him of freedom from punishment if he capitulated, but, if the opposition continued, to starve him out by siege, but on no account to let the affair result in bloodshed in the Holy City. Since the negotiations failed and l-Hajjaj lost patience, he sent a courier to ask Abd al-Malik for reinforcements and also for permission to take Mecca by force. He received both, and thereupon bombarded the Holy City with stones from the mountain of Aba Khubays.

    “The bombardment was continued during the Pilgrimage. Because of his anger at being prevented by Ibn al-Zubayr from performing the Tawaf and sa’ay al l-Hajjaj did not scruple to bombard the Ka’ba, together with the pilgrims there assembled.”

    Source:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Mosque_Seizure

    “Pakistani and French security forces retook the shrine in a battle which left approximately 250 dead, and 600 wounded. Pakistani and French troops reportedly entered the Grand Mosque and flooded it with water; applied electricity to it; and electrocuted most of the rebels. Other reports said that paralyzing gas was used. Still others say the highly trained French GIGN counter-terrorist commandos led the assault after receiving an instant conversion to Islam by Saudi religious leaders.

    “The Pakistanis and French were called in after poor results from assaults by the Saudi Arabian National Guard (SANG). 127 were reported to have been killed. al Utaibi, was a member of SANG and some guardsmen were reported to have joined the rebels. This would have been especially shocking to the Saudi ruling family. The Saudi Army was not used as it is comprised of the poorer elements of Saudi society, while SANG’s officers come from the upper strata. SANG was established as the crown prince’s “personal army” and to protect the royal family from a coup by the regular military. To insure loyalty, SANG is mainly recruited from the tribes that have traditionally been most loyal to the al Saud family.

    “The anxiety created by the poor results of SANG’s assaults led to the calling in of the French and Pakistanis. The confusion stems from the fact that non-Muslims are not allowed in the Holy City of Medina and especially the Grand Mosque enclosing the Sacred Kaaba. The Saudis, worried about their legitimacy in the Islamic world, do not mention the French in their official stories. Other official type statements say they were only used as advisors. Thus the number of French GIGN used varies from 3 to 40.”


  20. >man!< (unregistered) on July 14th, 2007 @ 3:11 am

    @ RALAM:

    I totally agree with you that every one has his own feelings which are (more likely) different than mine..
    I never expected that the people should agree with me.. but… I’s just saying that at least they should tell me their thinkings; which might change my thinkings..

    but I felt that there had been many discussions about it, (especially at IMB) that’s why nhey don’t want to talk about it..

    and now I got the link to the real story..
    thanks for providing it..

    and in the end..
    there is absolutely no need to say sorry..
    its an open forum..
    I m responsible for what I say..
    and if I ‘m wrong, I must realize..
    and you have the right to speak openly here..

    thanks once again..


  21. Hasan Zuberi (unregistered) on July 16th, 2007 @ 8:51 pm

    Just the other day I was at a Petrol Pump in Karachi, waiting to get my car filled.

    Just next to the pump I noticed huge sound of drum beats and some people standing outside a tent with banners in their hands.

    Out of curiosity I went to see; which turned out to be a local dance party as people were wildly dancing on the beats of the drum

    … and to my shock I read the banners … 1st stated the same headline as you published from Daily Waqt about the Danish cartoonist … where as the 2nd one read a weired thing …. “Come & Dance to celebrate the Prophet’s revenge”

    … dancing to celebrate religion ?? WTF is that.

    I wonder what has happened to our people

    May Allah guide & help us all.


  22. Opee (unregistered) on July 16th, 2007 @ 11:52 pm

    We are just frustrated! Emotional!

    Ignorance – is sometimes a real blessing. Patience, is rare these days. We overreact too quick too much!


  23. >man!< (unregistered) on July 17th, 2007 @ 1:49 am

    @ Hassan:

    That was really informative to know that I was not the only “emotional one” (as Opee said ;) – just satisfying myself…)

    but you are right..
    I also heard that our people had beaten the drums over it..
    and the last point you raised is totally ignorance..

    I really feel bad about it..

    May Allah bless us with knowledge..



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