Obama – Zaban Sambhal Kay!

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*Naa oye Sheeday, tou fir meri nakal utari ayy tay main ve tainu vekhya ayy*

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“There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again. If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won’t act, we will.” – US Presidential Candidate, Barack Obama.

What the heck do these knowledgable US politicians talk about when they say ‘we have actionable intelligence’…? And, how actionable their intelligence on WMDs in Iraq was?

Then we are lamenting the loss of 3,000 Americans when more than 70,000 civlians have died of attacks during the US led military intervention in Iraq. Pakistan itself has lost more than 1,000 soldiers in its fight against extremist militants and has been a target of uprising in its own provinces – just because we are here, protecting the US interests that have been against our very own interests.

Why Obama made such a statement? Steve Clemons, a foreign policy blogger says, “Obama has clearly been advised that he needs to do some of that George Bush swagger be-cause it plays well with the voters”

I do not support elements who are killing the innocent people, planning suicide hits and planting bombs in our cities. But, this does not mean that I will allow a stupid narrow-head American politician, trying to bolster his election rankings, speak of attacking my country.

Incidents like the Bajaur attack are not to be repeated, otherwise, it could create another foreign policy crisis for the US administration, shake the stability of Pakistan’s Government and cause serious secuirty problems for a country in a situation as fragile as Pakistan is in right now.

22 Comments so far

  1. Babar (unregistered) on August 2nd, 2007 @ 6:57 am

    The guy has been trying to run his compaign on the point that Bush needlessly invaded Iraq while forgetting about Al-Qaeda. So this fits in his plan to say that he will call back troops immediately from iraq and act where the terrorists are. Ofcourse he does not seem to have good grip on the situation in this part of world and thinking of Pakistan just as another Afghanistan. Such a move will clearly be a disaster.
    But having said that we should clean our house too. According to each and every international law, if people from a country keep attacking another country and the host counrty does not do anything to stop them, the affected country does have a right to act for its defence. And its not just about America. Afghan government , the Nato, Russia, China, and many other Asian countries also have stakes in this regard. I am talking about people crossing Pakistani border and attacking in Afghanistan. You can not just say that we cant do anything about them. Well if you cant , they will do.
    Having said that I dont think anybody agrees that striking inside Pakistan makes sense. As a matter of fact, I tend to beleive that they do not have the capabilities of doing so and live with the consequences. Its just the statement of a new comer who has not done a meeting with national security advisors.
    But as a matter of principle, if such people are provided safe heavens in Pakistan, the affected country does have a right (or in other words will get international support) to strike. But the emphasis is on “if”, I am not saying they are being harboured here, but in the past we have played this dangerous game. If we let the Al-Qaeeda regroup and they again start attacking the world from their base here, we will be in trouble.

    America realy does not have any credibility about attacking countries at random, but stake holder in this regard are not just americans. They include our close friends like China.


  2. Babar (unregistered) on August 2nd, 2007 @ 11:47 am

    But I do feel like breaking his jaw, alas this doesnt help. It is quite frustrating to see him run his election compaign at the expense of some other country.


  3. JayJay (unregistered) on August 2nd, 2007 @ 5:10 pm

    What has Obama’s campaign-driven bravado to do with the beautiful city of Lahore?

    I hear Qazi, Aslam Beg, Hameed Gul and many other political aspirants in Pakistan ranting and threatening ndia, America and Israel on daily basis. In fact, if we have to worry about anything it the daily threats being delievered (and followed by) the merchants of religion and violence against fellow Pakis, who do not fit into the straight-jacket devised by the Takfiri ideologues such as Syed Qutb and company. A political statement conditioned with a big “if” – “if we have actionable intelligence” — is certianly benign as compared to daily suicide bombings by the followers of the weired ideology.

    We have enough problems within our country that we don’t nee dto look for the problems from abroad.


  4. iblees (unregistered) on August 2nd, 2007 @ 9:32 pm

    i wonder why we have to drag religion and or india in every damn thread!

    Most of the LMB entries are non-lahore related anyway; so what the hell…


  5. Publia (unregistered) on August 2nd, 2007 @ 10:48 pm

    There are many, many Americans who are very unhappy with Obama’s remarks. Pakistan is our ally, and what the Senator said is absolutely unacceptable. Even the members of his own party criticized him. He is one of 100 US Senators, and does not set policy except for casting 1 out of 100 votes in the US Senate.

    Senator Obama wants to replace George Bush in 2009 following the presidential election in November, 2008. His speech was a campaign speech and does not represent current US policy, but the policy he would make if he becomes President.

    Currently, Obama is trying to win the nomination of his party to run for President. Obama made the speech with the goal to show that he isn’t as limited in his knowledge of foreign-policy as people say he is. He failed.

    What particularly bothered me was that our new US Ambassador presented her credentials only Tuesday to your government. At almost at the same time as Obama gave the speech, the city of Lahore was giving her a tour and a warm welcome. Perhaps Obama was trying to embarass President Bush, but all he succeeded in doing was embarassing the American people.


  6. Usman (unregistered) on August 2nd, 2007 @ 11:54 pm

    Obama didnt think as a politician when he made those remarks.
    He is energetic but very young and naiiveor may i say unexperienced. Not only it’s harder for him because he is non-white, after these remarks he surely made more holes in his boat to the Presidency shore. American people recognize Pakistan as their ally, due to Musharrafs commitment to wipe out extremists.


  7. Babar (unregistered) on August 3rd, 2007 @ 1:06 am

    @ Jay Jay
    Lets be real. Qazi and company never in public demanded an attack on america or. As a matter of fact one of my frnech was amazed that while they condone hitting american interests in Iraq and Afghanistan, then why not in America. This looked to his eyes that even the right wing has been sweeped by the american propaganda.
    And this threat by america is not just political gimick. They do go about attacking people and in my opinion they are the bloodiest imeprialists world has ever seen. They discuss taking other people just like picking tomatoes from their back yard. But in case of Pakistan , I doubt they will actually do anything.
    I would still say that out best defence is to fix our own home and win world credibility.

    And for those who say that “I would not allow an american politician to talk about attacking my country”, well they dont need your permision. Remember their is no world supreme court or judges to decide who is right and who is wrong. What matters is your diplomacy, strategic position and balance of power, not complaints.

    One of the candidate said that america should attack makka and madina in case of a nuclear attack on america. I would ask the genetelman, how about this, Muslims should kill every jew they see around in case of an attack by Israel on an islamic country. This is fascism in its purest form.
    But I know that american people still have enough sight to see the bias in ths kind of statement and such figures are not in the mainstream. At least not for now.


  8. Haris (unregistered) on August 3rd, 2007 @ 1:09 am

    So we are back to 9/11 … what have we gained from Musharraf’s selling his country?


  9. Babar (unregistered) on August 3rd, 2007 @ 1:30 am

    Let me finally say what I honsetly think. I think it wouldnt be highly immoral to take Osama, wherever they find him, be it Pakistan.
    On a lighter note I would put the following caption to this picture
    “Nawa aya ayein sohnia”
    Had Musharraf been internally strong, right now he is in a position to twist their arm, not them. Because of Iraq blunder, every body in the region(Saudia, Iran , what not ) is busy in twiching thier arms a little.


  10. Hasan Mubarak (unregistered) on August 3rd, 2007 @ 1:43 am

    @Iblees: We are not talking about religion or India here, rather, about someone who is threatening to target this country which also includes Lahore and its citizens for that matter. So, Lahorites ‘are’ concerned…


  11. Pretty Simple (unregistered) on August 3rd, 2007 @ 3:24 am

    @iblees: “MOST” entries are non-lahore, is not a valid statement.


  12. Babar (unregistered) on August 3rd, 2007 @ 5:37 am

    @ Iblees, I guess your response is printed on a wrong thread and wrong blog. By mistake I guess.
    :)
    I see no mention of religion or india in this post.


  13. original-faisal (unregistered) on August 3rd, 2007 @ 8:28 am

    I second JayJay…

    Even with the wildest stretch of one’s imagination, what on God’s green earth does
    this topic have to do with Lahore?

    In other words, how does this warrant being
    posted on Lahore Metroblogs? Would love to
    read an explanation if there is one.


  14. iblees (unregistered) on August 3rd, 2007 @ 3:36 pm

    @hasan/babar/etc:

    …political aspirants in Pakistan ranting and threatening India…

    …the merchants of religion and violence against fellow Pakis…

    but again, i am too dumb to read between the lines; of course there were no references, i just imagined the above lines.

    @pretty simple: do i have to point every single non lahore related posts? will shout quick next time.


  15. iblees (unregistered) on August 3rd, 2007 @ 3:57 pm

    no offense to any author but, imho, most of the posts lacks information about lahore; there were some really nice posts in past by some guy name Raza…. it would be nice to have more info and less rantings, and things happening in lahore.

    it seems people (both authors and readers) have started to use LMB as platform for either personal ideas, propaganda or jokes.

    well, just random thoughts…


  16. Pretty Simple (unregistered) on August 3rd, 2007 @ 4:20 pm

    @iblees etc: Yes, i want the list and the comparison. Plz do that next time.(facts). Take one category each time and inspect all the posts and find a keera in them.

    (m not adamant that u and others cant find any non-lahore, but ur statement is absolutely baseless that MOST of posts are non-lahore). And wud u like to have a look around other metblog fellow cities, the whole list.


  17. Pretty Simple (unregistered) on August 3rd, 2007 @ 4:30 pm

    @iblees: Fortunately, Raza has covered most of the gems of Lahore (u talking about historical places ?) and as lahore has no new Fort under construction, no new Badshahi mosque or newest anarkali plus we cannot repeat the same posts. All we have to write is, our individual perspective (boss told us it can be anything but good if related to lhr!). U may or may not find it worth reading.
    Think pink!
    This or that, LMB rulez :) and positive criticism is always welcome. Thanx for directing us to the right path.


  18. Pretty Simple (unregistered) on August 3rd, 2007 @ 4:36 pm

    m not offended :D …koi chakkar he naiiii :)


  19. JayJay (unregistered) on August 3rd, 2007 @ 6:13 pm

    @Babar:

    Qazi in many public speeches, when insurgency in Kashmir was at peak, declared that our aim is to plant Pakistani flag on Delhi’s Lal Qila. He habitually fulminates against the West and the US – He readily condoned the 9/11 for instance. Hameed Gul publicly demanded Pakistan joining the Taliban to recapture Afghanistan for “strategic depth”.


  20. SELF (unregistered) on August 4th, 2007 @ 1:10 am

    Hasan why are you so worked up over something that happened far far away? You can’t shut everyone’s mouth.


  21. Hasan Mubarak (unregistered) on August 4th, 2007 @ 1:41 am

    @Self: agreed!

    *has a cup of green tea to cool off*


  22. Mohammad Akram R (unregistered) on August 4th, 2007 @ 10:03 am

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    Follow the Hadith if Hadith matched with Quran then is okay other wise so many termites they changed the Hadithes since written by none Arabic peoples after 250 year and after them after they changed for own things and matter purposes and so many Jewish convert into Islam just for only change the track of Islam Allah already say’s in Quran 4:46 and 2:75 and please leave the tombs for pray when you can leave the tomb for pray your heart will be convert into pure Islam because those who said they are wali Allah actually they are pure termites in that regions to change the Islam into new format…Leave the tombs for prayer that is the biggest shirk today facing humanity you called Wali Allah they diverted the peoples from real Islam into new religions they diverted from them into 73 sects and peoples they pray on that tombs that is the biggest shirk today’s, leave those tombs which is you called Wali Allah they were not Wali Allah just follow the Rasool Allah S.A.W. PBUH rules and Quran leave them all dead peoples you called Wali Allah then your hearts will be convert into pure Islam sweetness and get mercy from Allah.

    Don’t forget you are the alien on this planet, you are not belongs to this land you must go back to your native planets which was belongs to your grand parent Adam & Hawa but you need to learn the etiquettes of your original great land you belongs if you are not serious still you will go there but not peaceful place. Allah planted you on this earth for filter, who adopt the good etiquettes and proceed prayers and obey the Allah orders and who’s behavior like animals.

    MY JOURNEY TOWARDS 7 SKY ‘s MORE THAN FAST SPEED OF LIGHT TRAVEL FROM EARTH I SAW MY EARTH FROM SPACE

    My journey towards 7 sky’s more than fast speed of light travel from earth…do you want to know about 7 skies…I traveled last year towards 7 sky’s not by my force Allah took me there with in a second I saw my earth from out site from space I was moving from my back my head was down like bow down than all stars than empty space a big gap after a new color sky with billion stars billion sun’s same after this sky big gap and one by one I passed 7 sky’s blue color is the first sky all sky’s are different colors and all 7 natural colors we can see in the light on earth, its not possible for human with body to reach there or any other creature but Allah took me there after 7 sky there is big darkness after 7 sky passed my body stop moving now I can move and think first I ask question my self I can breath here in space than I move my head move back to see who ride me here I saw Allah and His Arsh but closely Allah stop my body in darkness there was a distance …

    I saw Allah He is big too big no one can imagine any human Allah has beautiful colors on His face and beautiful light like you can see full moon and I request to my creator I want to go back earth than same journey starts I passed 7 sky one by one with different colors than I saw my earth and it takes all back & forth with in a second, I traveled with out body.

    All you peoples your soul also give the attendance on same place daily basis more than trillions trillions miles distances covers within micro seconds but you don’t know when you sleeping actually your spirit fly towards Allah Arsh and bow down for mercy and pray this is the knowledge I have to deliver you your body parts also praying and spirit but when you in conscious you are under control by satan because you obey his orders that’s why hell is created for satan partners who is in conscious and deny his creator Allah like you born and deny your mom she birth you.

    It was my real journey, I remember all things I saw on travel I saw our creator Allah very clear, one more thing Allah has 2 beautiful eyes I saw face mobark of Allah… I saw several things but here only this message for you Allah can see and Allah has 2 beautiful eyes..

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    I saw one dream in early morning time after our Fajar prayer I was around 2 year boy and there is also an other 2 year boy and his face color is whit but I am Asian color but similar face we were looks like tiwins and we were in same age no clothes on our bodies we both wear the kind of pamper cloths and I heard the hidden sound from Allah saying to me (in my language) this is Issa Allah Sallam (Jesses) in childhood so I am playing with him we get to gather playing with rocks suddenly one dog arrives this dog size is normal dog size and he has brown and whit color spots on body his ears down and not too big this dog looks like Asian dog and suddenly that came to me grip my hand in his mouth but I don’t feel fear then he left my arm and playing with us suddenly some big person I don’t know may be Jesses mother or some one else hold Jesses and put it on dog as a rider but I saw dog not like to hold Issa Allah Sallam body and try to run away but suddenly I heard the sound from Allah obey the order than that dog give the ride to Issa Allah Sallam and I am also with them and move to unknown place. I am 100% sure Issa Allah Sallam had one dog his color was white and light brown spots and ears were down and slim active dog he was protector of Issa Allah Sallam and his mother when they were alone and This dog gave the ride to 2 years old Issa Allah Sallam childhood when they were traveling in desert moving back to Jerusalem.

    Three times I met my Prophet of Allah Mohammad Rasool Allah S.W. PBUH. include one time with Angel Gibrail Allah Sallam in the dream all dreams I saw in after Fajar prayrs and in Friday mornings.

    Fasting every day after day and continues and 5 prayers Allah help you, every human will can see soon these 7 sky’s even when we die we can see but no one come back to tell you this knowledge Allah give me this knowledge to populate in humanity and its your rights to know before big attendance please read Quran all universes knowledge in this great book

    When you sleep your soul will flee towards Allah for Allah mercy and you don’t know because your soul journey is unconscious and travel time just micro second or may be no one can calculate trillions trillions miles distance cover and from close to Allah Arsh on top all these sky’s looks like one tiny flash spot than disappear so you can imagine how far your soul travel daily basis from earth to towards Allah Arsh for bow down and prayer for Allah mercy.

    This journey was in last 10 days of Ramzan in 2006 (don’t remember exact date) after Fajar prayer and Allah wants to let you know He is always watching you every steps Allah analyzing your thinking and that you will think in future Allah can see like you can see Allah can speak and Allah can trick you if you trick humans but not like magic Allah is justice and merciful because Allah create you and all you can see or imagine if you can trick to humans Allah can trick with you but it is in under by his law and justice He created on earth.
    The first sky color from earth is Blue, earth is inside Blue sky as a proof you can see reflections of this blue color on earth water and all other skies are different colors and all 7 natural colors we can see in the light on earth.

    Allah put intelligence and ego into humans and animals has only ego same as angels has only intelligence if human only use his intelligence and over ride on egoism than that human is great creature in whole universe and batter than angles because his work hard spiritually and physically to over ride intelligence on egoism and egoism is a satan home if human follow his egoism than there is no difference between animals and human they are same creatures and that kind of peoples judgment day they will be move from faces like animals move from faces than other body parts follow his face.

    When you see any animal doing some bed thing and you can feel sadness and you will considers because that animal doesn’t have intelligence that’s why he don’t know same thing when human just follow his ego Angels feel sad and they considers these humans are going to wrong way they are not using his intelligence and intelligence always proofing there is only one creator Allah and Allah is merciful for humans and Allah gave the key how to use intelligence that key is Quran and Allah great prophet Mohammad Rasool Allah and his whole life and there is no other way to fight ego…



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