Of traitors and backstabbers…

Dogs and wolves, by their very nature, have a habit of scent-marking their territories, patrolling regularly their poo-marked areas in search of food, injecting fear in non-hostile critters and such are their insecurities that even a slight sniff of intrusion turns them violent and bloodthirsty. Such have been the acts of Islami Jamiat Talaba, the student wing of Jamaat-e-Islami, in Lahore’s Punjab University since long; threatening, harassing and even murdering those who do not subscribe to their point of views. And such were their shameless actions yesterday, which were contrary to the spirit of their recently announced Pakistan Bachao Tehrik. Perhaps. they feared being reduced to insignificance in their own sty had they let someone else lead the procession – after all, the majority of the students in PU aren’t their followers and they themselves could one day be forced out if the genuine students ever rose against them. Their bozo-e-aala Nasrullah Goraya has come up with the lamest of reasons for handing Imran Khan over to the police – and that is, they’d vowed to keep the student movement free from politics. An apolitical movement by Jamiat is as oxymoronic as Altaf Hussain delivering a telephonic sermon on Human Rights. Whatever the real reason may have been, there can be absolutely no remission for such actions.

The students of PU and other institutions will be well advised to stay away from the protest rallies of gun-totting crackpots that make up IJT.

39 Comments so far

  1. Usama (unregistered) on November 15th, 2007 @ 1:19 am

    Viva la Revolucion ;)


  2. BitterTruth (unregistered) on November 15th, 2007 @ 2:13 am

    Nasrullah Goraya has come up with the lamest of reasons for handing Imran Khan over to the police – and that is, they’d vowed to keep the student movement free from politics

    I didn’t know nazim aala is so funny…hilarious reason. I feel so bad why I vote them last time.


  3. Kads (unregistered) on November 15th, 2007 @ 2:14 am

    Well said V. Well said.
    IJT is a joke. And in bed with the dictator.


  4. KAMI (unregistered) on November 15th, 2007 @ 2:35 am

    Hi V, I have always wondered that how come a sophisticated guy like Imran got stuck with Hameed Gul and Qazi. Look up the history, Jamaat has always been the part of the problem and not the solution.

    When in early 2000 Mush set about to repair wounds of this bleeding and leaking nation, he wanted Imran to be on his side, the reason being – he liked him. But he also wanted him to take it slow, get some experience and get acquainted with ground realities, but the great Khan didn’t listen. Its like alternate history, if one decision had gone either way may be Imran Khan would have been the Prime Minister now and Mush would have been considering retirement. hmmmmm

    For me both Imran & Mush are quite similar. I have never doubted there sincerity / commitment towards this country. Both are not corrupt, both have gone to extremes to do what they feel is right, let see what has fate in store for them.


  5. Asif Aslam (unregistered) on November 15th, 2007 @ 2:47 am

    Well, this is not Jamiat Islami, this is Jamiat-e-****** by nature. These ******** will be better off at Getmo when US will smoke their asses. ******* ******** of all times.


  6. khan (unregistered) on November 15th, 2007 @ 2:54 am

    Real ********….. fazlur rehman is the most shameless n ****** person in the world.He has corrupted IJT too with the help of people like liaquat bloch. This whole thing was organised by liaquat bloch.

    I am not a supporter of imran khan


  7. exciton (unregistered) on November 15th, 2007 @ 2:55 am

    Actually this only shows the true hypocritical face of yet another extremely powerful terrorist organization within our educational institutions — IJT.

    If IJT disagreed with Imran’s view, they should have refused him entry on the PU campus, but turning him over to the police actually is a display of a far more dangerous and sinister plot by the terrorists of IJT.

    The time has come that we purge such ideological terrorists and criminals as IJT from our institutions of higher learning.

    This also begs the question that how come a few men were able to carry out Imran Khan while a group of 3000 watched?! Why no one came forward and challenged their actions? Are PU students so terrified and horrified like the Jews at a Nazi death camp, that they could not overpower their “captors”?

    BTW, I am also not surprised by the usual denials and lies by the JI leadership. This has happened before. These religious organizations represent the worst and most evil mindshare of Pakistan.


  8. SELF (unregistered) on November 15th, 2007 @ 4:09 am

    Imran Khan faces terror charges after arrest in Pakistan

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article2868571.ece


  9. KALAKILLY (unregistered) on November 15th, 2007 @ 5:00 am

    ab bhee jag jao ae bayghairat kom kay nojawano.Pehlay Nawaz,Phir Dr Qadeer,Ab Imran.Jamat or Jameat he asal terrorists hein.Remember who provided 17th amendment.For the first time I believe MQM is right in their view against Jamiat.Shame on Qazi and Dr Ghafoor.They first opposed Pakistan and now they are responsible for bringing all the terrorism to Pakistan and defaming our religion.
    SHAME


  10. KALAKILLY (unregistered) on November 15th, 2007 @ 5:02 am

    ****** qazi


  11. iD (unregistered) on November 15th, 2007 @ 6:13 am

    I’m ashamed of being a PTI supporter
    I just can’t figure out how can they let those thugs manhandle the person who take as a role model
    **cking chickens


  12. KHAN (unregistered) on November 15th, 2007 @ 6:20 am

    ITS !! LIAQUAT BLOACH !!!!!!! who got all this done on FAZLUR REHMAN’S order


  13. Pervez Musharraf (unregistered) on November 15th, 2007 @ 7:43 am

    I have always been saying that these molvies are unreliable. Look at the way they have treated our national hero. Shame on all the Jamate Ger-Islami leadership. These monkeys are terror troden students who spend all their life in the same class until they are promoted to become the leader of their vulgar party.


  14. Neena (unregistered) on November 15th, 2007 @ 8:29 am

    IJT are stern followers of Taliban ideology. I know they are good for only moral policing others. They all are above the law. They KILL people for not fasting and beat adults for talking to opposite sex. Musharraf did one thing good and thats teaching these Mullhas lesson. They don’t know anything about living in a decent society.


  15. suh (unregistered) on November 15th, 2007 @ 9:01 am

    i was a supporter of imran khan when he first joined politics, but after it looks like he has started to become power hungry by joining the likes of nawaz shirff, qazi and others, there was a time when he use to rip ns apart in interviews when ns was in power but now he has him in his lap, i guess he will also join musharraf if he loses power.


  16. Reality_Check (unregistered) on November 15th, 2007 @ 9:03 am

    Musharraf did one thing good and thats teaching these Mullhas lesson.

    And then all hell was let loose, media and politicians forgot that how difficulr it was to get into that lal mosque, how many soldiers laid down their lives in that operation. Poems were written, videos with Jamatee narrators were posted and the govt was put onto the defensive. Later on the court stepped in and handed over the mosque to the same group. You cannot have it both ways my friends, have to choose sides.

    Thats why Allama Iqbal said;

    Musharraf key saath raabta Ustawar rakh
    Pawasta rah shajar se umeed-e-bahar rakh


  17. IUnknown (unregistered) on November 15th, 2007 @ 11:40 am

    sorry to say that jamateees are not molvis.

    these a bunch of gundas like mqm.

    does ne body know the reason behind imran’s arrival at PU?


  18. Maria - Pakistan (unregistered) on November 15th, 2007 @ 1:02 pm

    I am so ashamed about IJT’s actions. What marvelous gains were promised to them to do such a basic act of injustice? They promise to be the future of the country but all they are doing is getting key figures of this opposition to Martial law to get beaten up and arrested. They are not Pakistan’s future but rather it’s ANATHEMA.

    I call for all student activists reading emergency times to boycott IJT’s protest activities. They are hypocrites and only in this movement for selfish gains.

    and while Imran K. is claims he has started the student movement – which is not exactly true – the student movement is showing to be a spontaneous effort – is he saying ANYTHING WRONG? Is he of different goals that the students are? At least give the person credit on having the right objectives, goals and strategies in mind as we do.


  19. asa (unregistered) on November 15th, 2007 @ 4:11 pm

    A watan k sajelay “GERNAILO”
    Sarey RAQBAY tumharey liay hain
    KOTHIYOUN k talabgar ho tum
    PLATOAN k prestar ho tum
    O’ zalalat ki zinda misalo
    Ye patwari tumhary liay hein
    Tumsy hi hay yeh Budget hamara
    Sarey fund tumhary lyee hain
    Ay watan key zinda ghadaro
    bush key tamghey tumhary liay hain


  20. Mz (unregistered) on November 15th, 2007 @ 7:18 pm

    Today on 15th of november, a HUGE protest was held against Jamiat in Punjab University, which may possibly be the first on this scale. There could easily have been 2000 to 3000 students present. I was lucky enough to be able to join the protest. What I found very encouraging is that a large number of female students were also present at the protest. I really hope that this is the starting of a long due death of Jamiat. Their antics have no place in a modern society, where logic and reason trounce bigotry and hate.


  21. yes sir (unregistered) on November 15th, 2007 @ 7:37 pm

    IJT Buffet

    Take your turn and spit at IJT.

    No doubt they have proved themselves fruitless and shameless. But look at who is uttering words against them.

    LIKE Altaf Hussain taking stand for Human rights,
    LIKE Benazir taking stand for Pakistanis,
    LIKE MUSH taking stand for democracy..
    LIKE FAZLU taking stand for Islam…

    We are crooked people and our ‘leaders’ offcourse have to be above our normal standards


  22. Asif Nadeem (unregistered) on November 15th, 2007 @ 7:37 pm

    Maria….VERY WELL SAID!!! Long LIVE PAKISTAN without these dictators. Send them off to India again so they can whop their asses like they always did.


  23. Asif Nadeem (unregistered) on November 15th, 2007 @ 7:38 pm

    Maria….VERY WELL SAID!!! Long LIVE PAKISTAN without these dictators. Send them off to India again so they can whop their asses like they always did.


  24. KAMI (unregistered) on November 15th, 2007 @ 8:31 pm

    What MQM has done is just talking to these folks in the language they understand and kicking them out. Jamatees made their city one big safe house for AQ terrorists and KK totting goons in campuses, and they fought hard to reclaim it. Not only that, out of this turmoil they have also shown how to work for their people, calling MQM gunda is been built into our psyche by Jamaatee propagandists. Just go to Karachi and see how people’s representatives and ministers work day and night for the common good and that’s why, despite our displeasure they will be re-elected.


  25. rafik (unregistered) on November 15th, 2007 @ 10:26 pm

    one word,shaitaan jamiat talaba


  26. Farhat (unregistered) on November 15th, 2007 @ 10:33 pm

    I have been so angry and depressed since yesterday when I saw the way Jamiat ghundas treated Imran Khan. Imran Khan is a hero not because he won the world cup for Pakistan, but because the the past several years he has made independence of judiciary the single most important political cause. And now we can see why that has to be a foundation for democracy for Pakistan.
    I am not in Pakistan right now and I am not a student any longer but I am feeling the kind of anger I have never felt before about the way we are being screwed by the military yet again.
    We have to rise up or live like a broken, shameful, derelict fourth rate banana republic run but greedy generals.


  27. Farhat (unregistered) on November 15th, 2007 @ 10:34 pm

    I have been so angry and depressed since yesterday when I saw the way Jamiat ghundas treated Imran Khan. Imran Khan is a hero not because he won the world cup for Pakistan, but because the the past several years he has made independence of judiciary the single most important political cause. And now we can see why that has to be a foundation for democracy for Pakistan.
    I am not in Pakistan right now and I am not a student any longer but I am feeling the kind of anger I have never felt before about the way we are being screwed by the military yet again.
    We have to rise up or live like a broken, shameful, derelict fourth rate banana republic run by greedy generals.


  28. KAMI (unregistered) on November 15th, 2007 @ 11:55 pm

    FARHAT a wise man chooses his friends wisely. Imran Khan choosed to be on the side of Jamaat / Hameed Gul in the one point agenda of removing Musharraf and keeping our mountains safe for the man with long beard. Lets not loose focus, be sure to know who is who, if Imran Khan listened to Musharraf this disgrace would not have happened. Independent judiciary my foot, it is the single most corrupt institution in Pakistan and has never played a positive role in times of crises. When faced with real absolute dictators they were always chicken and when a guy set about to ensure peacefull and smooth transition to democratic rule, all sorts of hurdles and laws were let loose. The whole Nation was being subjected to peshee after peshee, they were even ready to delay crucial judgements because some judges daughter was getting married.

    Let common sense prevail, the whole nation needs to take a breather there is a need to re-access the situation. Lets not cut the branch in which you are sitting on.


  29. exciton (unregistered) on November 16th, 2007 @ 3:55 am

    @KAMI: “Independent judiciary my foot, it is the single most corrupt institution in Pakistan and has never played a positive role in times of crises.”

    You appear to be grossly confused. But it is not surprising to see the supporters of dictators disdaining the judiciary and the press.

    The fact is that he entire crisis is created by Musharraf to prolong his illegitimate rule and hold on power. The fact is Power corrupts and absolute power (as in dictatorship) corrupts absolutely. He has a rubber-stamp parliament and he now wants a rubber-stamp judiciary too!

    It is clear that you do not understand the concepts of democracy, freedom and civil liberties, because you have been deluded into thinking that Army Rule is good for the nation. If anything, 60 years of rather despicable history of Army’s intervention into the democratic process for self-righteous-hypocritical reason is perhaps the best testament of the fact that Army is the single most corrupt institution in Pakistan sitting on top of a Rs. 200 billion conglomerate that only serves the interest of the top brass and not that of actual fighting force — the JCOs and NCOs — and the nation at large.

    And those who deride the judiciary actually do not realize that an independent judiciary and a free press are the last defense line against Musharraf turing into a Pinochet.


  30. V (unregistered) on November 16th, 2007 @ 4:31 am

    ^ very well said Exciton.

    On top of all the wrongs he has done so far, he has made his own puppet as the caretaker prime minister to oversee the elections! So much so for the ‘free and fair’ elections. hah!


  31. Adnan (unregistered) on November 16th, 2007 @ 4:57 am

    For God’s sake
    If you feel what happened with Imran was wrong
    If you feel ashamed
    If you feel sad

    THEN STAND UP… join daily protests againts Jamiat and Musharraf.

    Students of PU, LUMS, UET, FAST, KE, AIMC, FJ, NCA…..all of you….in the name of Pakistan RISE UP.


  32. Adnan (unregistered) on November 16th, 2007 @ 5:01 am

    Join daily protests till the release of Imran. For God’s sake RISE UP NOW.

    ***** kaun…..musharraf

    ***** kaun…..jamiat


  33. IUnknown (unregistered) on November 16th, 2007 @ 11:57 am

    @kami : sorry but there are many roads left to be built in karachi.
    they have dug the whole karachi in VERY unplanned manner and at once.

    MQM has no more any street power and its a group of gundas widh JT (not IJT)


  34. Tariq (unregistered) on November 16th, 2007 @ 3:36 pm

    We should remove the “I” from “IJT” since these a**h*les have nothing to do with Islam and are giving it a bad name. Shame on them!


  35. One Bored Paki (unregistered) on November 16th, 2007 @ 7:51 pm

    One Proposal,

    Dear friends, please do not use this opportunity just because you hate IJT.

    This is our problem, we lashout at others in-disguise for their wrong doings but at the same time we ignore the mis-deeds our own loved ones.

    On these boards, I have seen people talking against MUSH for his wrong doings and then defending BB :| !!!!!

    I have seen people taking stand against IJT and then defending ALTAF and his Mafia cult.

    How can we admonish the wrongs of others and at the same time commit and be proud of our own wrong doings??

    I pray to Allah O’ Allah clean our hearts and let us see things the way they are and not in a distorted way, Ameen


  36. KAMI (unregistered) on November 17th, 2007 @ 9:07 am

    EXCITON Mush does not want to turn into Pinochet but but guess who is pushing him into this direction. People call this Martial Law, people have not seen what Martial law is like. For now its Chaudhry police who is taking care of the matters, and that seems to be enough,

    Who doesnt know that FEUDAL, ARMY & Mullah Nexus has been the cause of much ills in our society. Its no hidden secret, but does it makes sense that you go after one person who has taken all the right steps to bring about positivie changes the way this country is run. He has worked with the representatives that we have sent to the assemblies, our political parties are the ones who want to cling on to Nawaz and Benazir, they are incapable to present new leadership. Its our judiciary who refuses to convict any political leader, they are guilty of prolonging the proceedings until the evidence becomes stale.

    Yes, we need to go to polls its our democratic right but am not ready yet to give free hand to our politicians, I have seen them do a lot of damage in a very short span of time. So, for now Mush should be their, our political parties should reform, hold their own elections and show us that they can provide better leadership, then it would be right time for Mush to go. I am not the one who will vote for inviting chaos and loose precious lives for screwed up leaders and their screwed up motives.


  37. KAMI (unregistered) on November 17th, 2007 @ 9:28 am

    IUNKNOWN I dont need to rely on you for any input on status of my cities, I travel a lot and have friends in all the provinces. I have seen beautiful Peshawar & Quetta go down the drain after Afghan influx, and have seen Gwadar come up. Gone to Karachi during curfews in the 90’s and more recently when so much good is happening there, and like it or not I am impressed by their young mayor. So what the roads have been dug, it was the same in Lahore too, people were inconvenienced when underpasses were being built.

    Lahoris are guilty of forming perceptions on second hand knowledge, just like wests perception of Pakistan.


  38. knicq (unregistered) on November 17th, 2007 @ 11:22 am

    Kami,

    By the time Musharraf and his camp feel “ready” to hand over the country to politicians, they might have done too much damage to the country for much to be salvaged.

    The ends do not justify the means.


  39. IUnknown (unregistered) on November 19th, 2007 @ 11:27 am

    @kami, i guess u have VISITED karachi for a WHILE and im LIVING here. There is a lot of difference.

    I know the ground realities better than u.
    There shud be a proper plan before digging the roads. Those jahil thaikay daar follow just do it approach wid that Jahil Management.

    U seems to be another Army (Facist) person. BTW, mush. has never done ne thing good after 9/11 . All the money we have in our accnt is due to participating in international coialation rather than boost of any sort of industry in the country. OK??

    Weh mush. leaves, we will see the corruption made by him. Our exports are almost zero,. We are even buying “gundom” and “piyaz” from india.

    Which world u live in?



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