All in van!

How would you rate these vans with this kind of statement? “Zindagi maut ke amanat hai” etc etc.

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At least i consider the pessengers, who finally make it to their destinations “safely”, as Ghazees :) …after having this risky adventure.

What if we will have metro service here in Lahore, would same kind of quotes be written on them??

30 Comments so far

  1. Opee (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 12:18 am

    This was depressing!

    It should be something like:

    ‘Maut Aarzi Hai’

    or

    ‘Maut ab^di zindagi ki amanat hai’


  2. Pretty Simple (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 12:25 am

    Yeah it is depressing :(, but interetingly its still full of pessengers, maybe they dint got a chance to read this one beucase of rush. I will ask them to consult you for a better choice :). After all you are senior member of my very own virtual band, a top notch lyricist ;)


  3. Opee (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 12:32 am

    Like those black Rap Singers say: ‘Reeeespect!’ *making sign of peace* Yo… :)


  4. Pretty Simple (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 12:54 am

    :) Noww….we, at local vans, cant afford this YOooo. We need something desi …


  5. Hasan Mubarak (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 3:55 am

    I dread vulgar vandalism on, if there is ever going to be, Metro service in Lahore aside anywhere in Pakistan. We have a prominent case of such stuff written everywhere from buses to walls to public toilets… 8|


  6. mozang bijli (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 10:01 am

    honestly we need a strong mass transport system in lahore,
    only thing in lahore that sends my glucose and blood pressure shooting to sky is the traffic.
    i dread going anywhere just because of the stress roads instill in me.
    if there were a stable public transport system i would never hazard to drive myself in that crazy traffic.
    more than any thing we need a metro, railway ,monorail or even helicopters just to get that congestion off the roads.
    i am here working with people from mumbai and they have recently built a metro system in their metropils from their feedback i have gathered thatthe conditions on the metro in mumbai are no better than the vans in dear lahore.
    I guess its behavoir of masses which spoil good useful things for us.


  7. Faraz (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 1:24 pm

    i was in mumbai last month for a conference. stayed there for a week. Contrary to popular belief here in Pakistan, I have to say that Mumbai is pretty well organized and managed city in general… their public transport is in quite decent shape (i even ventured into city trains / double deckers and cabs just for the fun of it). The city trains, i found as a really efficient and convenient way to travel in busy traffic hours.

    Yes mumbai still has the problems of a developing city (roads for example are not even comparable to Lahore) but on the whole the situation seems to be much better and improving. The thing about india (that we can/should learn) is that they are damn pround of their cities and country, and take ownership of things at individual level.

    Maybe my experience of 1 week is not representative of the whole scenario, but i found mumbai to be a very nice, warm, friendly and above all ‘clean’ city…


  8. Bilal (unregistered) on July 1st, 2007 @ 1:10 am

    Indians are proud of their country because their country is doing well. Their economy is wrong.The country has a great image everywhere. Just see how many western tourists they get. Israelis are number 1 tourists in Goa.
    We Pakistanis do not have any pride because our country kee haalat khasta hain. The image of Pakistan in western countries is in doldrums.Can we ever improve and become like India? Only Allah knows.


  9. Bilal (unregistered) on July 1st, 2007 @ 1:11 am

    Sorry I mean their country is strong. Freudian slip :-)


  10. Pretty Simple (unregistered) on July 1st, 2007 @ 1:26 am

    Freudian is acceptable but Fraudian not :)

    Why dont u guys can see Pakistan’s positive points?

    I am planning to go to India in December, inshallah. I will let you guys know about my experiance. I like it here. Theek hay….hum bohat chezon main pechay hain, if you really comapre with India…but still, we are not that static, we are progressing while facing all the politics :)


  11. Faraz (unregistered) on July 1st, 2007 @ 3:00 am

    hey… dont get me wrong. i actually see a very positive outlook for pakistan. the only point i was making was that in terms of real progress, such as improvement in basic infrastructure and necessities that ultimately drive economic growth, india is much more focused and is progressing faster. also india does very well in managing its perception around the world and marketing itself.

    pakistan is a very lively and dynamic country to live in. the people here are sharp, witty and carry a genuine sense of humour. what we are missing is the direction… towards progress. we need to find that economic and social stability that we have been missing. thats all.


  12. Pretty Simple (unregistered) on July 1st, 2007 @ 3:06 am

    Nothing is perfect. System/infrastructure is the core issue everywhere, east or west. I m positive about us :) her hal main.


  13. Faraz (unregistered) on July 1st, 2007 @ 3:38 am

    good :)… btw where is the sun gone? its all too dark outside nahin?…


  14. Pretty Simple (unregistered) on July 1st, 2007 @ 3:40 am

    Sun was tired, so taking some rest. Its night’s duty to keep an eye on us at the moment. Din’t he tell u? :))


  15. Faraz (unregistered) on July 1st, 2007 @ 3:51 am

    nobody tells me anything :(…

    anyway, just finished watching Paris, je t’aime… a movie which has nothing to do with Lahore. but it reminds one so much of Lahore. incredible film making.


  16. Pretty Simple (unregistered) on July 1st, 2007 @ 4:11 am

    ohh…thats sad… but its ok. Her aik bat pata hona achi bat nahi hoti :)

    Weekend movie mania….hmm… Lahore ke baaaaaaaaaat he aur hai. Btw i heard, safaye k lihaz say Paris bhi kam nahi lhr say :D..yaqeen nahi ayaa…jaa kar daikhna he paray ga :)


  17. Bilal (unregistered) on July 1st, 2007 @ 7:03 am

    Perhaps it is time to do some introspection on why india despite having a burden of a huge population has left us far behind.What mistake did we do?Why can’t we remain as focused as them in education economy export.We can not and should not put blame on any except ourselves.The citizens of a country are the authors of its fate.


  18. Bilal (unregistered) on July 1st, 2007 @ 7:18 am

    Also pardon me for asking this question.Why do we compare ourselves with India all the time.Why don’t we compare ourselves with Germany,US,Canada,Aus or any other developed country.Could it be that subconciously we can not accept so easily that indians have done better than us.
    I also get into depression seeing india’s progress.
    I try to change my soch by thinking about other countries but pata nahin aisa ho nahin pata.


  19. Faraz (unregistered) on July 1st, 2007 @ 1:45 pm

    Bilal: what you are thinking is Not correct. First of all, its not possible to compare two countries and declare that one is “behind” other. Can you tell Koreans that they are behind Japan? or Australians that they are behind England? Its simply not possible to do this sort of analysis. Countries are composed of various factors… the people, the culture, the economy, the soicio-political system, the works… in their own respect, all countries are better than the rest… in one thing or the other.

    About Pakistan, our economy has shown some strong signs of progress. despite natural calamities (earthquake) and other issues, we maintian 7% GDP growth rate (which by world standards is very healthy) and our FDIs (foreign investments) are at all time high. But as i said before, the best thing about Pakistan is its people… a lively, dynamic and very vibrant culture… this is what makes it such a wonderful place to live in.


  20. Pretty Simple (unregistered) on July 1st, 2007 @ 2:52 pm

    Comparison gives depression :( . Dont go for comparison, try to look at positive aspects of life.


  21. Bilal (unregistered) on July 1st, 2007 @ 9:47 pm

    Faraz, I am not the only one to have this inferority complex when it comes to comparing ourselves with India. Our media is full of it. I am pasting below an article by Anjum Niaz of dawn.

    SLEEPING ‘GUARDS’ OF DELHI

    By Anjum Niaz, Dawn Magazine, April 15

    http://www.dawn.com/weekly/dmag/dmag20.htm

    The guards of Delhi’s most important people mind their own business
    unless snapped

    Rarely do I see a wild dog awake in New Delhi. Day or night, the stray
    creatures lie sprawled in the middle of footpaths and fancy shopping
    centres dead to the world around them. Except for one with eyes half
    shut. He suddenly lunges towards me as my camera flash goes off. His
    bark is as nasty as his teeth. The canine is in an attack mode. I dash
    into the nearest shop for shelter. The dogs of Delhi mind their own
    business unless provoked, I soon learn. The guards of Delhi’s most
    important people mind their own business unless snapped, this too I
    discover during my walking tours in the capital.

    Every morning, as the yellow leaves cascade down from century-old
    trees shedding their April baggage and creating their own energy, I
    feel a sense of freedom walking past homes where the highest of the
    land live and monkeys move with abandon. It is a flight of fancy, one
    that gives me a high. The road not taken or the one chosen; footing
    past houses; stopping wherever for as long as the heart desires to
    look at whatever; asking the odd guard for directions; allowing
    curiosity to soar and question why security is missing and where’s the
    police and, more importantly, the tents (that one sees in front of our
    VVIPs’ homes). I feel like a human once again.

    My dignity never breached for a moment. Here is an ordinary person, a
    woman, anonymous but happy to disclose her nationality when asked,
    roaming aimlessly around homes of the most powerful in India.

    Large sprawling bungalows that the British built surrounded by green
    gardens and flowering trees line wide avenues named after Mughal
    emperors. On Akbar Road is the Army House. Other than two tiny cannons
    and a red nameplate engraved in brass saying ‘Army House’, there is
    nothing to intimidate the passerby. Inside the closed gates stands a
    sentry while another stands on the footpath watching the traffic go
    by.

    On the next road live the air and navy chiefs. Again both the homes
    are inconspicuous by their looks. A few houses down the road lives the
    Chief Justice of the Supreme Court flanked by some army general and an
    MPA (member of parliament).

    What a mix and match! These colonial homes – they all look the same to
    me – single storey, whitewashed exterior, deep verandahs with colonial
    pillars and modest driveways house generals, air marshals, admirals,
    judges and MPs.

    Rustling on the footpath covered in golden leaves, I see the odd white
    jeep belonging to Delhi police cruise past. Where are the sirens,
    pray? Where are the whistle totting, kalashnikov-waving security
    people? Where are those hideous plainclothes policemen in white
    shalwar kamiz wearing black waistcoats that match their jet black dyed
    hair, mustache and beards?

    In one breezy morning as I walk past a home still lost in wonder as to
    how Delhi has managed to retain its glorious heritage where its
    residents breathe clean air and move around freely, I am asked
    politely to step on the pavement while the gate swings open and the
    guard holding a walkie talkie springs to action. Slowly a plain-
    looking white car with tinted windows comes out of the home and stops
    on the main road to take a right turn. It has to wait for the traffic
    coming from the opposite side to clear before it can move. Now listen
    to this: the man in the car is former prime minister of India Atal
    Bihari Vajpayee. He’s given no special protocol although he lives in
    the VVIP area and enjoys all the perks. He must wait his turn for the
    traffic to clear.

    Can you ever imagine such a sight in Pakistan? It can only be in your
    dreams.

    I envy India’s open society. For one come from across the divide where
    the state is run by a general who has militarised the ruling setup and
    let loose the dogs of war (intelligence agencies) on the civilians;
    where a mob of women covered in black burqas and hijabs are on the
    rampage in Islamabad, where Islam is being defaced by illiterate
    bigots — indeed, New Delhi is the opposite.

    My sense of freedom and dignity as a citizen was stolen decades ago —
    since the time of Zia. Dared I walk sleeveless with no dupatta and
    bellbottoms (the fashion then) only to be accosted by strangers on the
    road and questioned if I am a ‘Christian.’ Zia’s Islam terrorised the
    women branded as ‘westernised feminists.’

    When Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif arrived, the hideous Intelligence
    Bureau watchdogs were let loose on anyone appearing to be a threat to
    the civilian prime minister. Bhutto and Sharif handpicked their own IB
    chiefs and gave them license to pick up, torture, chase or hound
    anyone that came in the way of their leader. The sitting prime
    minister’s own brother Murtaza Bhutto was not even spared. He was
    gunned down in front of his 70 Clifton home.

    On Friday at noon, I see Delhi’s Muslims in white caps gather in a
    mosque in the middle of a roundabout to offer their juma prayers.
    Where are the armoured personnel carriers (APCs) that I see in
    Islamabad on Fridays?

    Can you smoke in public? I ask a young Indian girl in jeans and a
    short top. “Sure, why not,” she shrugs. “Want one?” We are at a tea
    stall in one of the shopping areas. Everybody is busy with his or her
    own shopping. No one stops to stare when the young lady lights up. At
    Connaught Place, I see more women smoking. They are not self-
    conscious. At times, I feel genderless, as I walk around. Being human
    is what matters, not being a woman or a man.

    The chaiwallah makes a special cup with crushed cardamom which costs
    only rupees three but tastes heavenly. He’s been around the Circle for
    the last 30 years and his tea is served to customers frequenting the
    fancy shops and offices.

    Stopping for a paan gets me chatting with Pundit Kumar. With a huge
    red tilak, the man tells me how a judge of the Supreme Court came to
    his rescue when he personally visited the site to see for himself if
    the paanwala should be evicted as the police was insisting. “In 1992,
    I won the case and have been sitting here since. The judge was a
    Bhagwan (god). He arrived unnoticed by the police and heard the police
    calling him a corrupt judge not knowing that they were committing
    contempt of court. Needless to add, many heads rolled.”

    Driving around the Defence Housing Society is another eye-opener. The
    retired generals live cooped up in small apartments that are more
    vertical than horizontal.

    Let me leave you with a thought. Imagine our retired and serving
    generals, brigadiers, colonels and the rest pigeonholed in such a
    manner?

    This can only happen in your dreams.


  22. Bilal (unregistered) on July 1st, 2007 @ 9:53 pm

    Also I do not trust any figures about our economy. Few years back World Bank reprimanded Pakistan for cooking up figures. For e.g. we included sale of mobile phones as capital investment in Pakistan whereas it is consumables. Most of the FDI in pakistan is nothing but aid from US for supporting them in their war on terror. I do not see any big western company opening up a factory in Pakistan. Hardly a day passes without us reading the news that a big MNC is opening up a new factory in India.
    Contrary to what many people delude we are much more behind India than we think we are.
    To make it worse we have pakistanis living abroad who actively encourage ideas of breaking pakistan into pieces. Check this out
    http://www.dividepakistan.blogspot.com/

    I am really not much hopeful of future of pakistan. I have given up.


  23. Pretty Simple (unregistered) on July 1st, 2007 @ 10:10 pm

    All i know that i will never give up and never ask others to give up :) …rest is upto u. All i know that i have to concentrate on my part of participation in making things go right, whatever i am capable of, whatever i can do RIGHT. I can max out for betterment of others…All i know, i can and i will, inshallah.

    Does somebody have a dispirin???????


  24. Pretty Simple (unregistered) on July 1st, 2007 @ 10:12 pm

    I know, i believe, i will never give up.


  25. Faraz (unregistered) on July 2nd, 2007 @ 3:25 am

    Bilal: Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.

    to be honest i haven’t even read your entire long post. i couldn’t be bothered (and hence i am in no need for disprin so far :)… but i can see what you are talking about and i can see that you are wrong. For your every story of depression, i can tell you ten stories of hope and inspiration. its just the way you chose to look at things.

    economy: agreed we are not where we should have been. But who gave you the idea that our basic economic numbers are incorrect? have all the intelligent economists and financial analysts living in Lahore, Karachi and Islamabad gone nuts while only you can see the true picture?

    foreign investment: you do not see any big “western” company coming to pakistan? well, i have some news for you. In the financial year that just ended, Standard Chartered Bank invested $487 million in Pakistan to acquire Union Bank, Singapore’s Tamasak group invested $300 million to acquire PICIC bank, ABN AMRO invested $227 million to acquire Prime Bank, and Saudi American Bank finalized a deal to inject equity in crescent bank…. and this is just the banking sector i am talking about…

    to be honest, the people of our land, specially the generation that is in its 20s and 30s right now, have never been that vibrant, full of energy, enthusiasm and in high creative spirits as they are now. The problem, my friend, is that you are giving up hope when hope is all around :) ..Pakistanis abroad are coming back here to set up businesses in the cities of their fathers and grand fathers, highly talented Pakistanis are giving up lucrative jobs in the west to teach in our (very) impressive new universities like LUMS or AKU. They can see a good life for themselves in their homeland… in their towns and cities. and more than that, they want to contribute.

    It is that kind of spirit that we need. not useless debates about who is better than us and who is where. so relax, and try to be that spirit. if you can only change yourself, you will see the world changing around you…

    ….and Pretty Simple: disprin ki jagah Pepsi chalay gi? woh bhi thandi baraf… works like a miracle for head ache :)


  26. Faraz (unregistered) on July 2nd, 2007 @ 3:42 am

    except that u shouldn’t try it when u actually have a headache…


  27. Indian (unregistered) on July 2nd, 2007 @ 5:18 am

    To whoever who quoted this
    “also india does very well in managing its perception around the world and marketing itself.”

    India does not do anything to manage perception. We earned the reputation of a stable democratic country which is focused on progressing. We indians do no go about blasting themselves everywhere, rather we work hard and are one of the best performing community in UK/USA.

    Here is what your pakistani brothers did yesterday.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/07/01/world/main3003100.shtml

    It is only a question of time before the identity of these terrorists is revealed. Wanna bet they are from Pakistan.

    Also regarding FDI by all the banks you mentioned above, do have any link to show that, or did your grandma tell that as your bed time story.


  28. Bilal (unregistered) on July 2nd, 2007 @ 5:36 am

    Mr. Indian, Do a google search on Standard Chartered Bank buying Pakistan’s union bank. Your arrogance is disgusting.

    Faraz: That post is not mine. I cut and pasted Ms. Anjum’s post.
    I appreciate your positive spirit. Good luck.


  29. Pretty Simple (unregistered) on July 2nd, 2007 @ 5:39 pm

    @faraz @faraz k totkay: Pepsi will work with dispirin in it :D

    @bilal: I read her columns, she’s good and eccentric in her thoughts btw.


  30. Faraz (unregistered) on July 3rd, 2007 @ 1:26 am

    Mr. Indian: The FDI’s information mentioned above is all publically available. A 5 minutes desktop research can give you 20 links. But since you asked for it, here is one link out of many:

    http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007%5C07%5C01%5Cstory_1-7-2007_pg5_1



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