When neighbours speak up…

Well, well, well; it’s only been three days and we have messed up our country left-over image throughout the world.

What remained untouched was our ‘friendly’ neighbours using the situation to their own advantage.

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Source: Cox & Forkum

“Pakistan is seeing terrorism for the first time. What is happening in Pakistan, thinking people have realised fundamentalism is perverse and dangerous to society” said Manmohan Singh, the Indian Prime Minister, as reported by the Press Trust of India. link

Although I donot totally disagree with what he has said, still it irks me.

It should not be long enough when Hamid Karzai also churns out a statement like, ‘See, didn’t we used to say that Pakistan’s brewing Taliban militancy…!’

25 Comments so far

  1. Babar (unregistered) on July 6th, 2007 @ 4:46 am

    Why should it irk you? Nothing wrong in what he said. He also went on to say that terrorism should not be associated with a country, nation or religion and muslims should not be looked upon with suspicion all over the wrold.


  2. Aamir Ali (unregistered) on July 6th, 2007 @ 6:41 am

    such cheap and exploitative statements are to be expected from Indians. Good thing is all they can do is talk.


  3. JayJay (unregistered) on July 6th, 2007 @ 7:37 am

    Well, chickens are coming home to roost. Manmohan Singh is spot on. We are reaping what we had sown.


  4. JayJay (unregistered) on July 6th, 2007 @ 7:43 am

    The key for eliminating religion-inspired terrorism in the South and Central Asia lies with Pakistan. No other country has so many hatcheries churning out a crop of hate-spewing, totally brainwashed zombies, who are mentally living the life of an Arab nomad in the 7th century, as we do. We need to clear the mess we have created over the years in pursuance of utopian dreams.


  5. iblees (unregistered) on July 6th, 2007 @ 3:13 pm

    correction: most of 7th century arab nomads were responsible for some of the greatest advancements in science, music and philosophy.

    if i have to rank these so called “students”, they are just morons living in denial.


  6. Mr. Indian (unregistered) on July 6th, 2007 @ 7:35 pm

    Most, if not all, of those achievments of nomads were those of jews, falsely claimed by muslims are their own. Jews with 14 million population in the world have bagged over 160 nobel prizes in science and economics. Muslims with 1.5 billion population have bagged 2 nobel prizes in science/economic and curiously both of them are stricltly speaking not muslims. Abdus Salam was a Ahmediya and the Egyptian winner in medicine hates islam and is vocal about it.

    Also Arabs falsely claim Indian achievements in maths as their own. They learnt it while trading and then claimed it as their own.


  7. Mr. Indian (unregistered) on July 6th, 2007 @ 7:39 pm

    The present state of muslims is a good indicator of what they were. All muslims countries put together have less univserities than India and all of them put together produce less Phds than India. India in turn produces much less than US.

    Also all 57 muslims countries GDP put together is less than India when PPP is taken into account. This despite the oil income to middle east countries.

    Muslims are good in only thing. Killing others and also themselves in the name of pleasing allah.


  8. iblees (unregistered) on July 6th, 2007 @ 8:58 pm

    @MR. INDIAN: Are you new to this planet? First of all Arab != Muslim, there are/were Arabs of other religion too. Get your facts right. Jews only started to excel less than a century ago.

    As far as the false claims go, How about Ibn Farnas who started experimenting with human flight centuries before Da Vinci. More

    Before Medieval Arabs, it were Chinese, Greeks and Persians; the current age is all about japanese (dont think there are many muslims,jews or hindus there!)

    Lastly, Keep the HATE to yourself, you’ve successfully proved that you deserve it more than any other living or dead.


  9. Babar (unregistered) on July 7th, 2007 @ 10:00 am

    It is utterly stupid to say that a group of 1.5 billion people were never good ever. It is extremely fascist and racist remark. Yes it is true that hindus were a great civilization and they were probably better in mathematics than any other in the world at one time. But muslims also had their turn. Dont forget it is always the case that the leading civilizations in the world produce culture, science and knowledge of the time.
    And most importantly, dont forget that almost 1/3rd of the population of once was india is muslim. Indians and muslims are not antithesis of each other.
    And it is also rightly remarked by some body that jews started to excel in science only a century ago, and their success is presented as a model to the low achieving minorities all over that the tables “can” be turned.
    At the same time it is also wrong to consider as is sometimes suggested in pakistani texts that all science/knowledge came from muslims. Science is a collective endeavour and the muslim scientists learnt a lot from greek/roman works. who in turn learnt from egyptians. Muslims also learnt from indians and chinese. And all this was then learnd by west. And ofcourse west has excelled anybody else and any era. for now at least. (as a purely academic matter, I would disagree that the current age belongs to the Japaneese :)) )

    And lastly, I would hate to see this forum turn into another forum where indians/pakistanis fight like cats and dogs. I hope there are no more racial hate posts here.


  10. Babar (unregistered) on July 7th, 2007 @ 10:09 am

    I would also second waht Jayjay said.


  11. Mr. Indian (unregistered) on July 8th, 2007 @ 3:30 am

    Jews suddenly can not become smart in the last century. And muslims suddenly did not become dumb. Anyone who says that is an idiot.

    The problem is that muslims believe too much in islamic crap which hinders critical thinking. Their miserable output in education shows that.
    Why did India only has to succeed in education among third world countries. There are so many poor countries in asia and africa. Why didn’t they succeed like india in IT/Engineering/Medical field. Fact is, hindu civilization always played lot of importance to education which cultivated that environment. In islam sword was always deemed more important than pen. Result is there to be seen in the muslim ummah.


  12. Hasan Mubarak (unregistered) on July 8th, 2007 @ 8:38 pm

    @Mr.Indian: Excuse me sir! We totally respect your view point and ideas, however, one needs to be reminded that this is not the right place to express them.

    Again, thanks for not discussing religion here.


  13. Mr. Indian (unregistered) on July 9th, 2007 @ 1:15 am

    Religion is the reason of existence for pakistan. If the neighbors of Pakistan are saying that Pakistan is the breeding ground for terrorists, then there is a reason.
    Listen to a Pakistani Hassan Butt who was once a
    radical and then gave up. He publicly admits that there is a violent streak in islam which makes any person justify violence.

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=11778628


  14. Hasan Mubarak (unregistered) on July 9th, 2007 @ 2:19 am

    @Mr.Indian: A guy’s interpretation cannot justify that Islam is a violent religion. It is as simple as how do you perceive and interpret the teachings of any religion. There are people who take out verses and present them out of context and try to prove the wrong ideas.

    It was not the people of Pakistan who supported terrorists and extremists, falling victim to a wider conspiracy under which the US used weak regimes in Pakistan to counter the socialist threat posed by Russia’s advance towards the warm waters. This is what gave Pakistan and Afghanistan, religious extremism and divided our society on sectarian roots.

    Mind you, the concept of a Holy war, in our words Jihad, is present in every divine religion of the world inclusing Christianity, Judaism and even Hinduism. Is it wrong to fight against those who are oppressing innocent people of your kind? no, it is not. And it is exactly what Jihad is.

    Next time you should not mix suide bombers, opreachers of hatred and extremist mullahs with true followers of Islam who are against the killing of innocent human beings.

    Islam, in its true nature, asks you to first become a good human being and care for your family, parents, neighbours, countrymen (Huqooq-ul-Ibad) and after that you should obey Allah’s commands and pray before Him (Huqooq-ul-Allah)

    I hope that clarifies.


  15. Mr. Indian (unregistered) on July 9th, 2007 @ 6:05 am

    It is the same old story. Moderate muslims like you try to present syrupy/honey version of islam while conveniently forgetting that there are violent verses of islam which calls for killing all non-muslims. This is not one person’s opinion. It is corrborated by killings of muslims all over the workd. Check the latest score in http://www.thereligonofpeace.com. One has to be a moron or a muslim to ignore large scale killings going on in the muslim world. They cook up some stories of muslims being oppressed and they blow away trains in Madrid, London, Mumbai or fly planes into buildings.
    Mind you west has been too liberal with muslims allowing them to preach hatred in their land.
    http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-op-dalrymple8jul08,1,3219734.story


  16. Mr. Indian (unregistered) on July 9th, 2007 @ 6:09 am

    the correct link is http://thereligionofpeace.com/


  17. Mr. Indian (unregistered) on July 9th, 2007 @ 6:27 am

    “Mind you, the concept of a Holy war, in our words Jihad, is present in every divine religion of the world inclusing Christianity, Judaism and even Hinduism.”

    islam explicitly talks about offensive jihad. How do you think islam came to subcontinent from Arab. Did they invade kings in india or indian king went there. Islam conqured persia in just 17 years and converted all of them to islam. They went in north africa and converted christians to islam. The only place they failed is India, something which irritates muslims even today. Hindus resisted to the best of their ability. Still india lost modern day pakistan and bangladesh, afghanistan to islam. Anyhow looking back it is good riddance only.

    Can you answer one thing: How come despite 1000 year rule of islam in india, india’s low caste never converted to islam. The number of dalits/low caste remained the same in india during islamic rule. Shouldn’t they have converted to islam in joy knowing that they can escape from cruel hinduism into a religion choosen by allah. Even today dalits convert to buddhism to protest against their ill-treatment in hinduism – but they don’t touch islam with a barge pole.


  18. Mr. Indian (unregistered) on July 9th, 2007 @ 6:42 am

    You know in US educated muslims suddenly kill few people by either shooting or running their cars/jeep over pedestraisn. There is a term
    for it. It is called Suddent Jihad Syndrome.
    Read it, it is funny and true.

    Sudden Jihad Syndrome SJS is disorder which strikes mostly Muslim men
    between the ages of 14 to 40 who wake up one day with an uncontrollable
    urge to kill and maim as many non Muslims as possible before either being
    killed or getting stopped. Warning signs are growing a beard, putting on
    robes, going to mosque and reading the Koran. There is no known cure for
    SJS except to convert out of Islam to another religion.


  19. Pretty Simple (unregistered) on July 9th, 2007 @ 2:02 pm

    Can anyone guess what syndrome Mr. Indian has :D??????


  20. 1900 (unregistered) on July 9th, 2007 @ 4:11 pm

    @mr. indian: you don’t go out often, do you? i suggest, get off the crack and try to get laid.


  21. Opee (unregistered) on July 9th, 2007 @ 9:41 pm

    @pretty: He looks like to have suffered from a “CrAcKhEaD-SyNdRoMe” in harmony with “Get-Off-The-Track-All-The-Time-From-The-Topic” Disease along with “Pretending-to-be-different-person-without-knowing-people-know-who-the-crackjack/bumphead-he-always-is” Disorder. :)


  22. Pretty Simple (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 12:22 am

    @OP: Dotor saaab, is it possible that one single person suffers from all above-mentioned syndromeS?


  23. Opee (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 12:29 am

    Its an experiment. We are watching a revolution. A mind blowing theory making its existence to the medical science. Eureka, the same person with all those syndromes (keera’s) popping up all the time in this person’s brain :) .. Its not him, its his age. He must be between his 14 to 40 :)


  24. Graduate of Madrassa Univ of Pakistan (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 1:48 am

    I am the topper of class of 2003. I am fully committed to Quran, which means I want entire world to be converted to Islam. Jews/Christians and specially hindus will have only two choice: convert or die. The world belongs to allah and his believers, not kuffrs.


  25. Opee (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 2:39 am

    … Talk to the hand! :S



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